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		<title>By: ABCDiamond</title>
		<link>http://www.abcdiamond.com/australia/median-house-prices-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-378</link>
		<dc:creator>ABCDiamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latest figures from the ABS, show the Capital City Median House price changes for the year June 2009 to June 2010 as:

&lt;strong&gt;Sydney	&lt;/strong&gt;	
Jun-2009	 $490,000 	
Jun-2010	 $610,000 	up 24%

&lt;strong&gt;Melbourne	&lt;/strong&gt;	
Jun-2009	 $401,200 	
Jun-2010	 $500,500 	up 25%

&lt;strong&gt;Brisbane	&lt;/strong&gt;	
Jun-2009	 $420,000 	
Jun-2010	 $465,000 	up 11%

&lt;strong&gt;Adelaide	&lt;/strong&gt;	
Jun-2009	 $363,000 	
Jun-2010	 $410,000 	up 13%

&lt;strong&gt;Perth	&lt;/strong&gt;	
Jun-2009	 $455,000 	
Jun-2010	 $510,000 	up 12%

&lt;strong&gt;Hobart&lt;/strong&gt;		
Jun-2009	 $310,000 	
Jun-2010	 $349,800 	up 13%

&lt;strong&gt;Darwin	&lt;/strong&gt;	
Jun-2009	 $465,000 	
Jun-2010	 $530,000 	up 14%

&lt;strong&gt;Canberra&lt;/strong&gt;		
Jun-2009	 $460,000 	
Jun-2010	 $545,600 	up 19%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latest figures from the ABS, show the Capital City Median House price changes for the year June 2009 to June 2010 as:</p>
<p><strong>Sydney	</strong><br />
Jun-2009	 $490,000<br />
Jun-2010	 $610,000 	up 24%</p>
<p><strong>Melbourne	</strong><br />
Jun-2009	 $401,200<br />
Jun-2010	 $500,500 	up 25%</p>
<p><strong>Brisbane	</strong><br />
Jun-2009	 $420,000<br />
Jun-2010	 $465,000 	up 11%</p>
<p><strong>Adelaide	</strong><br />
Jun-2009	 $363,000<br />
Jun-2010	 $410,000 	up 13%</p>
<p><strong>Perth	</strong><br />
Jun-2009	 $455,000<br />
Jun-2010	 $510,000 	up 12%</p>
<p><strong>Hobart</strong><br />
Jun-2009	 $310,000<br />
Jun-2010	 $349,800 	up 13%</p>
<p><strong>Darwin	</strong><br />
Jun-2009	 $465,000<br />
Jun-2010	 $530,000 	up 14%</p>
<p><strong>Canberra</strong><br />
Jun-2009	 $460,000<br />
Jun-2010	 $545,600 	up 19%</p>
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		<title>By: ABCDiamond</title>
		<link>http://www.abcdiamond.com/australia/median-house-prices-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>ABCDiamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 02:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note also on those prices above...

1995: The average house was probably 3 bedroom, 1 bathroom and 1 garage.

2010:  How big is the average house now?  4 bed, 2 bathrooms, 2 garages ?  and should we REALLY expect it to stay at the same price as a smaller house ?

When we start building more smaller houses again, maybe then the prices will look better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note also on those prices above&#8230;</p>
<p>1995: The average house was probably 3 bedroom, 1 bathroom and 1 garage.</p>
<p>2010:  How big is the average house now?  4 bed, 2 bathrooms, 2 garages ?  and should we REALLY expect it to stay at the same price as a smaller house ?</p>
<p>When we start building more smaller houses again, maybe then the prices will look better.</p>
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		<title>By: ABCDiamond</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABCDiamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 02:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually one year ago there were more people saying that the housing market would crash in 2010, than there were those who were in &quot;utter denial&quot; about it.

I&#039;ve actually never met anyone who was in utter denial about the housing market.  Most are realistic, but some have been saying it will drop 40%-50% next year since 2004, and we are still waiting for those promised drops in 2005, 2006, 2007...

There are plenty who have seen and acknowledge how the Sydney property market died after 2003 and never really recovered, but others who are in utter denial that it did actually die.

It is very confusing.

&lt;p&gt;Figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics show these annual percentage changes for each year, for the movement in Established House prices in Sydney:&lt;/p&gt; 
&lt;ul&gt; 
&lt;table&gt; 
&lt;tbody&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt; Year &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt; Sydney &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt; Australia &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;1995&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;1.3%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;11.5%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;1996&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;1.5%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;1.2%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;1997&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;5.2%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;4.3%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;1998&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;7.8%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;6.7%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;1999&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;9.5%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;7.8%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2000&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;11.3%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;7.5%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2001&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;10.4%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;14.0%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2002&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;21.0%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;17.3%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2003&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;16.5%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;17.6%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2004&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;5.4%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;8.2%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2005&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #ff0000;&quot;&gt;-4.7%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;1.0%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2006&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;1.4%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;9.5%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2007&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;5.2%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;10.6%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2008&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #ff0000;&quot;&gt;-0.4%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;2.8%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2009&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;5.9%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;6.2%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;tr&gt; 
&lt;td&gt;2010&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;11.0%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;11.5%&lt;/td&gt; 
&lt;/tr&gt; 
&lt;/tbody&gt; 
&lt;/table&gt; 
&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually one year ago there were more people saying that the housing market would crash in 2010, than there were those who were in &#8220;utter denial&#8221; about it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve actually never met anyone who was in utter denial about the housing market.  Most are realistic, but some have been saying it will drop 40%-50% next year since 2004, and we are still waiting for those promised drops in 2005, 2006, 2007&#8230;</p>
<p>There are plenty who have seen and acknowledge how the Sydney property market died after 2003 and never really recovered, but others who are in utter denial that it did actually die.</p>
<p>It is very confusing.</p>
<p>Figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics show these annual percentage changes for each year, for the movement in Established House prices in Sydney:</p>
<ul>
<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td><strong> Year </strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong> Sydney </strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong> Australia </strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>1995</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1.3%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">11.5%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>1996</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1.5%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1.2%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>1997</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5.2%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">4.3%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>1998</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">7.8%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6.7%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>1999</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">9.5%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">7.8%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">11.3%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">7.5%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2001</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">10.4%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">14.0%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2002</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">21.0%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">17.3%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2003</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">16.5%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">17.6%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2004</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5.4%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">8.2%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2005</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">-4.7%</span></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1.0%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2006</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1.4%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">9.5%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2007</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5.2%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">10.6%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2008</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">-0.4%</span></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">2.8%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2009</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5.9%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6.2%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2010</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">11.0%</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">11.5%</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</ul>
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		<title>By: Zetaboards Australian Property Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zetaboards Australian Property Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australian house prices are facing a perfect storm – see article below…

Australian House Price Crash

“One year ago there was utter denial the housing market was in trouble at all. Now the realization is starting to dawn on some smarter thinkers that something incredibly serious is underway, but as usual their belief (faith?) is that they can manage the fabled short lived ‘soft landing’. Well good luck with that is all I’ll say. The larger the boom, the larger the crash. The real estate boom that started in the late nineties began long and slow and over its course turned into the greatest housing bubble the world has ever seen. This bust that’s unfolding will be exactly the same. Hold on to your hats real estate speculators. As the year unfolds you’ll come to realize real estate in this country is dead for a generation or more. This bust will be a doozy.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australian house prices are facing a perfect storm – see article below…</p>
<p>Australian House Price Crash</p>
<p>“One year ago there was utter denial the housing market was in trouble at all. Now the realization is starting to dawn on some smarter thinkers that something incredibly serious is underway, but as usual their belief (faith?) is that they can manage the fabled short lived ‘soft landing’. Well good luck with that is all I’ll say. The larger the boom, the larger the crash. The real estate boom that started in the late nineties began long and slow and over its course turned into the greatest housing bubble the world has ever seen. This bust that’s unfolding will be exactly the same. Hold on to your hats real estate speculators. As the year unfolds you’ll come to realize real estate in this country is dead for a generation or more. This bust will be a doozy.”</p>
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		<title>By: ToldYaSo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToldYaSo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 00:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The property prices jumped 37% in Melbourne in 2009. An apartment in CBD used to cost $400.000 in Jan 2009. The asking price for the same apartment is today $550.000.
That is clearly a bubble.

It will be fun to watch the market when the interest rates go back to 9.6% as they were in 2008. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The property prices jumped 37% in Melbourne in 2009. An apartment in CBD used to cost $400.000 in Jan 2009. The asking price for the same apartment is today $550.000.<br />
That is clearly a bubble.</p>
<p>It will be fun to watch the market when the interest rates go back to 9.6% as they were in 2008. <img src='http://www.abcdiamond.com/australia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ABCDiamond</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABCDiamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If everyone follows your advice and &quot;Panics&quot;, then you will be proven right.

But, what if they don&#039;t, what if people just carry on as normal, buying what they can afford, and not panicking ?

Have house prices REALLY, as you say, &quot;snowballed into the biggest property bubble the planet has ever experienced&quot; ?

Look at the Sydney prices above, an increase of just under 10% over a total of 4 years.  That is an average of 2.36% per year, that is even less than the average wages have risen.

However, people who rely on &quot;boom and bust&quot; for entertainment, tend to use more exaggerated figures, rather than averages, and will look at say Sydney City prices, and similar expensive areas, where no one disagrees that prices have sky-rocketed.  But out in the suburbs, where most normally financed people live, there has actually been little price movement.

Some areas do show massive increases, especially when these new estates are being built, which push up the median prices, as they now include 5 bed, 3 bathroom houses instead of the older 3 bed, 1 bath houses.

Obviously this will change median prices, but it doesn&#039;t mean that actual house prices have changed, it just means that more people are choosing to buy the more expensive properties.

I&#039;ve been listening to these boom and bust spruikers since 2005, and the message has always been the same.  The property crash is upon us.

Unfortunately, this has become the same as those few people who walk around with placards saying &quot;The End of the World is upon us&quot;

One day it will happen, one day they will be right, but for 5 years now they have been wrong.

Who knows what will really happen ?  
I sure don&#039;t, but I have somewhere to live, that I can say I own, and if wages stay the same it doesn&#039;t matter what the median price of any area really is.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If everyone follows your advice and &#8220;Panics&#8221;, then you will be proven right.</p>
<p>But, what if they don&#8217;t, what if people just carry on as normal, buying what they can afford, and not panicking ?</p>
<p>Have house prices REALLY, as you say, &#8220;snowballed into the biggest property bubble the planet has ever experienced&#8221; ?</p>
<p>Look at the Sydney prices above, an increase of just under 10% over a total of 4 years.  That is an average of 2.36% per year, that is even less than the average wages have risen.</p>
<p>However, people who rely on &#8220;boom and bust&#8221; for entertainment, tend to use more exaggerated figures, rather than averages, and will look at say Sydney City prices, and similar expensive areas, where no one disagrees that prices have sky-rocketed.  But out in the suburbs, where most normally financed people live, there has actually been little price movement.</p>
<p>Some areas do show massive increases, especially when these new estates are being built, which push up the median prices, as they now include 5 bed, 3 bathroom houses instead of the older 3 bed, 1 bath houses.</p>
<p>Obviously this will change median prices, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that actual house prices have changed, it just means that more people are choosing to buy the more expensive properties.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been listening to these boom and bust spruikers since 2005, and the message has always been the same.  The property crash is upon us.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this has become the same as those few people who walk around with placards saying &#8220;The End of the World is upon us&#8221;</p>
<p>One day it will happen, one day they will be right, but for 5 years now they have been wrong.</p>
<p>Who knows what will really happen ?<br />
I sure don&#8217;t, but I have somewhere to live, that I can say I own, and if wages stay the same it doesn&#8217;t matter what the median price of any area really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Dank Castle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dank Castle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A year ago there was total denial the real estate market was in any bother. Now the recognition is beginning to dawn on the smarter folks that something terribly serious is happening to the property market, but as normal their blind faith is that they will have the oft spoken about &#039;soft landing&#039;. Ha! No way hose! The bigger the boom, the bigger the bust. The property boom that began here in the late 90s started slowly and snowballed into the biggest property bubble the planet has ever experienced. This crash that&#039;s now underway will be absolutely the same. My advice to real estate speculators is panic, NOW! As this year pans out you&#039;ll finally recognize property in Australia is dead for generations. This crash is going to be a big one!

Dank.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A year ago there was total denial the real estate market was in any bother. Now the recognition is beginning to dawn on the smarter folks that something terribly serious is happening to the property market, but as normal their blind faith is that they will have the oft spoken about &#8216;soft landing&#8217;. Ha! No way hose! The bigger the boom, the bigger the bust. The property boom that began here in the late 90s started slowly and snowballed into the biggest property bubble the planet has ever experienced. This crash that&#8217;s now underway will be absolutely the same. My advice to real estate speculators is panic, NOW! As this year pans out you&#8217;ll finally recognize property in Australia is dead for generations. This crash is going to be a big one!</p>
<p>Dank.</p>
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